Most used submissions

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Most used submissions
Original Poster: BLACK PANTA
Forum: Grappling & Jiu-Jitsu
Posted On: 05-06-2006, 08:18

Orginal Post: BLACK PANTA: What are the most used submissions in both NHB fighting and the dojo/sparring sessions. What ever submission you choose please describe from what position you find/think the submission mostly comes from. I see the armbar happening a lot from guard/mount.

Post: Stg:

i think the most subs performed are guillotines and rnc’s from the turtle position/having the back.>

Post: JC1007:

I think in class I find that arm bars are the most common form of submission. In MMA/NHB matches, I’ve seen a good combination of arm bars and chokes. Occasionally you’ll see a kimura.>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

The kimura/americana is the highest percentage submission in the upper level MMA events. Most fighters are good enough to not get their back taken for the RNC and can escape guillotines and armbars. The kimura/americana, however, gets slapped on almost any time somebody is in half-guard or gets side mount, which is pretty common. It’s more likely that the lock will be broken or defended and then a ground and pound is used to finish, so that’s probably why people don’t think the kimura is as common as it really is.>

Post: samurai6string:

I agree with Tease, but also a Kimura/Ude Garmame can be secured from top mount or even from the gaurd. In my experience in the dojo and tourneys, people aren’t usually looking to defend against ude garame from those latter mentioned positions.
However, I voted chokes because I think I misunderstood the question, but that is what I usually end up with.
Also, is an Americanna the same thing as a Key lock? If it is, then Kimura/Key Lock would rank even higher.>

Post: TKDman:

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Also, is an Americanna the same thing as a Key lock? If it is, then Kimura/Key Lock would rank even higher.

Yes, it is.

A question for the more knowledgable: has omo plata ever been used in a fight in the history of MMA? Whenever I see it demonstrated by someone, they always talk about how useful the technique is. But of the many MMA fights and a few bjj tourneys I’ve seen, I’ve never seen it. The closest thing I can think of is the hybrid Royce used on Akebono (hardly a fight anyway). Anyone have experience in using this technique?>

Post: BLACK PANTA:

[quote=TKDman 
Quote:
Also, is an Americanna the same thing as a Key lock? If it is, then Kimura/Key Lock would rank even higher.

Yes, it is.

A question for the more knowledgable: has omo plata ever been used in a fight in the history of MMA? Whenever I see it demonstrated by someone, they always talk about how useful the technique is. But of the many MMA fights and a few bjj tourneys I’ve seen, I’ve never seen it. The closest thing I can think of is the hybrid Royce used on Akebono (hardly a fight anyway). Anyone have experience in using this technique?[/quote 

I’ve seen omoplata used in mma b4, but it’s mostly used as a sweep, never seen it as a finish. I think I’ve seen Nog use it. In tourneys, same thing mostly a sweep. You’ve gotta be really good to pull it off without your opponent knowing what’s going on.>

Post: samurai6string:

It seems a little suspect to me. I guess if you are really good at the technique you could make it work, but it seems a little too easy to counter/avoid in the first place.>

Post: ty100:

i think the guilitine choke because when a person shoot on you you will most likly end up with you appoinent head under you arm ready for a guilitine>

Post: samurai6string:

but a guillotine is to easy to break, just chin down into it.>

Post: angryrocker4:

Exactly, which is why you try to shove them back and down on their ass! That’ll stun’em for a few. (did it accidentally once)>

Post: The BadBoy:

What Des said.>

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