How Much Does The Size Of An Opponent Affect A Fight?

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How Much Does The Size Of An Opponent Affect A Fight?
Original Poster: vladimir
Forum: Hand to Hand Combat
Posted On: 01-09-2006, 18:53

Orginal Post: vladimir: For example someone smaller fighting someone larger.

Post: angryrocker4:

I’d have to say, its more of a mental thing than anything. Size difference is nothing more than that. Its always come down to who wanted to “win” the most and who wouldnt give up in my personal experience. Though there are the advantages vs disadvantages like “reach” and weight, but I believe that stuff is equalized if one knows his body well enough.

As for size itself thing and its effect, take a big bodybuilder and a powerlifter half the bodybuilder’s size, You can bet safely that most of the time the powerlifter is the stronger. He may not be as “pretty” or tan though. But looks are deceiving.>

Post: Americanfreestylerules:

Good point. But someone with that weights a lot can absorb more of the force of a strike.>

Post: angryrocker4:

I believe that is not all that true. It applies when hittin a fat guy in the gut, for example. But as far as like places not surrounded by thick layers of fat, theres no absorbtion. Now some guys might have an iron jaw or something where it wont phase them no matter who hits’em, but I think in order to absorb stuff you have to know how to roll with the blows, and then its training and not really weight. Also when we think of guys that weigh more, we think of people that train, and so yeah, those guys would have an advantage a little, but most big guys are bodybuilders (which arent that strong for the most part) or just fat.

So unless you let a fat dude sit on ya, its really irrelevant, and then you could just point and yell, “They’re giving out free snicker’s bars!!!” and that should get him off lol.>

Post: mannyB:

I disagree totally.
I think body weight is a huge factor.
Maybe even THE biggest factor.

I would argue that body weight can out weight skill if the variance is great enough.
In fact, I’d take a 250lb guy with some street experience over a 130lb shaolin master any day of the week.

That’s why we have weight classes in all fighting, so the little guys don’t die.

I don’t know the exact physical equation of throwing a punch.
I imagine it would look something like this:

(Velocity)X + (Weight) Y= Punching Power

Now as the variable for X (body weight) increases the punching power goes up.
That’s just common sense.
The harder the punch the more damage it can do.
A man 150 lbs is just not going to knock out an NFL line backer in a street brawl.

Here’s an another example.
Think abour your own weight, now imagine a woman, or a younger boy who’s 40 or 50 or 60 lbs lighter than you.
How much skill would they need to damage you?
I’d say quite a bit.
Not to mention that if that smaller person catches even a decent punch, they’re going to sleep.

In my experience, I’ve been training MMA for 10 years and been in more than a dozen or so street fights, my weight has always been a disadvantage.
I’m 5′ 7″ 175 lbs.

Especially in a NHB confrontation.
Even if your opponent doesn’t know how to grapple, his shear size is a danger, and in a street fight you will end up clinching.

One of my best friends is 6’7″ weighs about 250.
He doesn’t know any MMA.
When we used to wrestle, he’d simply grab some part of your body (usually your skull) and just start squeezing it.
It felt like it was going to crush. You can’t rely on a kick to the groin or an eye gouge or that secrect technique sensei showed you cause more than likely it’s BS. Sorry…

My advice to anyone about fighting is this:
Do yourself a favor and avoid fighting at all costs, you never know what someone has under their sleeve.

In the event that you have to fight, fight to kill. Stick to the basics: Punching, Muai Thai strikes, low kicks, and the basic grappling techniques.

If you still need more evidence about size, watch the street fight videos that are on this website.
You’ll see for yourself how the smaller guys get tossed.

Now I know alot of people are going to argue that with 20 years of training you can control a much larger opponent and sifu so and so is a grand wizard etc…

I love the tradtional MA styles, I think they are beutiful and steeped in history and tradition. They are a direct link to an era gone by. But the simple fact is that no single traditional MA is going to save your ass against a savvy street brawler.
Especially a large one. Western boxing, and grappling have changed the world of fighting. Even Bruce Lee abandoned his tradition.

Hope I didn’t offend anyone, it’s just MHO….backed up with cold hard facts.

: )>

Post: setsu nin to:

In my oppinion better question is stronger than bigger, becouse smaller guy can be stronger than big one.
In theory size isnt important as technique in any style, its much more important technique, but… In techniques vs size I will always put my money on technique, but when you have bouth technique and size vs technique than I put my money on technique.>

Post: angryrocker4:

I think you have to be specific on the type of bodyweight, though. Cause Im not sure if your talkin about just straight weight as in mass or like fat or muscular weight.

If you cant rely on gouging out someones eye, then thats the baddest motherf***er alive. But seriously, more mass doesnt equal more energy out put, not always. And being small doesnt make people more fragile or less able to take punishment than the big dudes. But dont forget that all the western styles came from the east. You dont need 20 years of trainin to be able to control a larger oppenent. Here’s the secret to that: Realise that the only control is knowing that you have none. But you have influence.

Im ramblin on….later.>

Post: JC1007:

I don’t think size alone makes a difference. I’d be more willing to put my money and conditioning and strength (in that order) even if the skills were equal.

Now, all other things being equal, the conditioning, strength, skills, etc., then yeah, I think size (particularly in reach if it’s a stand up fight or mass if the fight goes to the ground) can be the deciding factor.>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

Dude A and Dude B get into a fight. Dude A is the typical American at 5’11” and 175 lbs. Dude B is 6’4″ and 260 lbs. They slug it out for a while, and neither one seems to be doing much. Then, Dude B gets a clinch and simply leans over on Dude A, putting Dude A at a serious disadvantage, essentially winning the fight right there.

Don’t be fooled. Taller guys need to be reckoned with because they have a serious reach advantage. Heavier guys need to be reckoned with because they can move mass – theirs and yours – with greater ease.

If you’re a buck fifty soaking wet and holding a brick, start carrying a knife.>

Post: trun31:

I’m pretty new here and this is an old thread but I gotta weigh in on this one too (pun inteneded).

Weight always matters. Technique always matters.

Although it’s not always true, heavy guys tend to be stronger. Sure, some are big tubs of goo but those aren’t the guys you are likely to spare, compete, or fight with on the street.

If a dude weighs more, your technique will need to be more solid. In that same logic, if a dude weighs more, his technique will not need to be as solid as yours in order to pound you, because he already has an advantage in size. It’s just plain physics.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m 175lbs of quick, scrappin’, heart that is has been working on technique for 20+ years. I have fought bigger dudes in many different circumstances and won but I have also had my a$$ handed to me by a few big strong guys who didn’t know much but had strength and instinct.

MannyB already said it to some degree but, I?ll restate it- The more I train and experience in life, the more I realize that you never know who your getting ahold of. Whether they are 120lbs or 300lbs there are some really tough guys out there. There are also some really unrestrained psychos that would have no problem gauging your eyes out, biting your face off, stabbing you with a knife, shooting you with a gun, etc- and that?s the guy that is behind you because you are busy fighting his buddy (some other unrestrained psycho).

My $.02- No matter what your sensei or your girlfriend tells you…size matters. It’s not the only factor but it matters.>

Post: vladimir:

I believe size matters but there are many more important factors involved in winning a fight.>

Post: nbotary:

[quote=vladimir I believe size matters but there are many more important factors involved in winning a fight.[/quote 
Yeah, like how well you give or take the beating being handed out… :roll:

Vladimir, your comment is pretty much an understood principle of any fight. Why don’t you post the other factors and we’ll all break it down from there…>

Post: mannyB:

Basically, my personal experience has taught me this:
That wrestler “The Rock”, would hand Jackie Chan his own severed limbs in a street fight.

No one would argue that Jackie has infinitly more skill and technique than the Rock.

I know it’s a ridicules analogy but I believe it holds.>

Post: karateshopma:

The verdict is: it depends on the fighters involved. If size were the sole or even predominant factor then theres no way my 5’8” 160lb Sensei could wipe the floor with my big arse (6’0” 230lb) on a painfully regular basis. Nor could he do it to the rest of our class being easily the littlest dude there. However, you do have to fight a big guy very differently than a leaner fighter; just like you would in any situation. In reality I suppose its the MA worlds equivalent to the “Chicken or the egg” question. Mr. Miyagi said it best- the best way to avoid a fight is to not show up.>

Post: vladimir:

[quote=nbotary [quote=vladimir I believe size matters but there are many more important factors involved in winning a fight.[/quote 
Yeah, like how well you give or take the beating being handed out… :roll:

Vladimir, your comment is pretty much an understood principle of any fight. Why don’t you post the other factors and we’ll all break it down from there…[/quote 

I believe the following are more important than size and the reasons for them:

-Surprise: If you have surprise you could attack a larger opponent at a disadvantageous position for him or get a powerful strike on a vulnerable target such as the eyes.

-Training: If you know what techniques are more effective than others and how to employ them. Even if your opponent is much stronger you have a lot better chance of surviving. Although this isn’t a fight I remember when a student about three times my size started sticking his hands in my face, I grabbed one of his hands and applied a wrist lock, he just about fell over. The point being, being effective at techniques even a few can really help in a fight.

-Friends: Pretty much self-explanatory, if your with several people your going to have an advantage.

-State of mind: If your determined to win a fight no matter the circumstances or the means you?ll have a huge advantage. If you accept your going to get hurt but that your going to stop your enemy no matter what you have a much better chance of winning than someone who’s afraid to get hurt or unsure of their abilities.

-Experience: Your going to know your capabilities and what’s effective and what’s not.

-Drug/Alcohol Influence: Some drugs and alcohol can make you num to pain or give you extra strength than usual. (Overall not a good idea but potentially could help someone.)

-Speed: If your faster than your opponent.

-Weapon: For obvious reasons>

Post: mannyB:

I totally disagree with your reasoning.

Fighting that occurs in a dojo (no matter how “realistic”) is nothing like what goes on in the streets.
I’m not trying to diminish the skills and talent of those of us who have not been in real fights, but it is not even close to the same thing. Stop and look around you right now.
Now imagine fighting in that areas VS your dojo.

I’ve trained in more than a few dojos, and I’ve never been in one where they don’t stop the fighting when someone’s nose explodes or twists their ankle and can’t stand up on it.

I’ve also seen very few dojos that train street realistic.
Example: In street clothes, no pads on the floor, no gloves etc..

The questions was how much does size matter.
The introduction of wild scenarios (drugs, weapons, friends) sort of skews the issue.

If your opponent is Fat Albert, or if he is on drugs, or a huge wimp then YES you can over come his size with skill.

I guarentee you that if you go out of the Dojo and try to throw a wrist lock on a 250 lb man he is going to instantly pull his hand away and toss you on your arse.

Heck, even the Gracie’s added a weight class to the UFC after Royce got his ass beat by Ken Shamrock.
And he was only a few pounds heavier than Royce.

I do agree with the post about avoiding a fight.

One other thing, lets be clear.
When I refer to size, I’m refering to a large variance between opponents.

At least 20, 30 or 40 lbs.>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

[quote=vladimir -Surprise: If you have surprise you could attack a larger opponent at a disadvantageous position for him or get a powerful strike on a vulnerable target such as the eyes.[/quote 
I’ve had a guy jump on my back and put me in a rear naked choke without any prior warning. I had around fifty pounds over the guy. I swung him around off my back, broke his hold on my neck and we started the slug out. Surprise, in and of itself, will not win you a fight.

Quote:
-Training: If you know what techniques are more effective than others and how to employ them. Even if your opponent is much stronger you have a lot better chance of surviving. Although this isn’t a fight I remember when a student about three times my size started sticking his hands in my face, I grabbed one of his hands and applied a wrist lock, he just about fell over. The point being, being effective at techniques even a few can really help in a fight.

Ask a thug or a bouncer who’s never taken classes or been coached if he’s ever fought somebody who did train. I bet he laughs and then launches into a very amusing story about some stiff-limbed karate guy screaming like a banshee before getting knocked the fuck out.

Quote:
-Friends: Pretty much self-explanatory, if your with several people your going to have an advantage.

And then you encounter the always problematic group fight or gang war or whatever else somebody might want to call it. Everyone’s got friends, and traveling in packs just makes them do the same while making you look scared.

Quote:
-State of mind: If your determined to win a fight no matter the circumstances or the means you?ll have a huge advantage. If you accept your going to get hurt but that your going to stop your enemy no matter what you have a much better chance of winning than someone who’s afraid to get hurt or unsure of their abilities.

Tell that to Tank Abbott and then look at his win-loss record.

Quote:
-Experience: Your going to know your capabilities and what’s effective and what’s not.

How many veterans get whomped by the more athletic youngsters? All of them. If experience were such a deciding factor, fighters would never retire.

Quote:
-Drug/Alcohol Influence: Some drugs and alcohol can make you num to pain or give you extra strength than usual. (Overall not a good idea but potentially could help someone.)

I think the drugs you need to consider are steroids, which they won’t be under the direct influence of when fight time comes. If they’re taking PCP, Meth or whatever else, it might have some impact on their performance, but it will have an incredible impact on their mind and make them easily defeatable if you know what you’re doing.

Quote:
-Speed: If your faster than your opponent.

If you’re faster, but have no room to move, than speed does not matter.

Quote:
-Weapon: For obvious reasons

And then you run into the Cold War arms race. You got beef with some guy down the street. You sock him in the face, he comes back with a bat. You step up with a knife, he comes back with a gun. You pack a shottie, you grabs an Uzi. You carry an AK, he’s buying C4…once you bring in any weapon, your enemies will always try to find a way to outgun you. You can’t drop nukes on everyone that you might get caught up with, so dealing with weapons is a sticky subject.>

Post: vladimir:

Tease T Tickle

So do you believe size is the biggest advantage in a fight?>

Post: zefff:

Quote:
You got beef with some guy down the street. You sock him in the face, he comes back with a bat. You step up with a knife, he comes back with a gun. You pack a shottie, you grabs an Uzi. You carry an AK, he’s buying C4…once you bring in any weapon, your enemies will always try to find a way to outgun you. You can’t drop nukes on everyone that you might get caught up with, so dealing with weapons is a sticky subject.

:lol: Is that Des backing down and signing the peace treaty? :lol:>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

[quote=vladimir Tease T Tickle

So do you believe size is the biggest advantage in a fight?[/quote 
I believe there is no “biggest advantage” in a fight. If you look at a hundred fights, you will find a hundred reasons why the winner won.

Listing all of those reasons is only useful to the completely oblivious.

The goal of any dedicated martial artist should be to identify one’s advantages and find a way to maximize their usefulness. If that advantage is size, then the story’s over and everyone calls you a bully because you’re picking on little guys.

[quote=zefffffffffffff Is that Des backing down and signing the peace treaty? Laughing[/quote 
No, that’s Des pointing out that what one person sees as leveling the playing field another will see as an excuse to escalate matters and make it worse. If you know you’re getting into a knife fight, don’t bring a gun. In the long run, you’ll wind up in deeper shit than you were in before.>

Post: Sirc:

Sticky subject. Weight helps but in the end it comes down to who made the first mistake.>

Post: redswordsman:

I think that the important subject in here should not be the size. It should be how people fight. Also there is only two type of technique in fighting.

Form- People who practice this type dont really rely so much in speed but in dexterity. Another advantage of this people is that it is hard for them to get hit or to be grappled.

Speed- People who just try to attack suddenly just without caring about being hit.

So I think it is really up to the person to choose and it is really to hard to combine this two concept in fighting>

Post: bouncer99:

The posted question here is “How much does the size of an oppenent affect a fight” All other things being equal (impossible to determine) the bigger stronger fighter will usually have advantage. Not a guaranteed win, but more than enough to make odds. This is not factoring in things like weapons, backup, etc. I could take on 80 lb girl and lose, if shes packing a gun or knife. Thats not the question though. Size does make a difference. Hence weight divisions. Every advantage counts, and many of them are impossible to quantify. Training, experience, size, strength, luck, etc. Size just happens to be one thing you can determine about a potential opponent/aggressor without knowing extensive information about him or even having fought him yet. Further, it has been widely speculated that it becomes more difficult to seriously harm an opponent who is significantly heavier (30 lbs or more) than you with strikes, while it becomes much easier for him to incapacitate you. General rule of thumb = bigger guy is generally stronger. This is why fighters generally dont like to move up weight classes. It pits them against opponents who are naturally stronger. I can already tell that there are going to be a ton of posts on here pointing out times that smaller opponents have taken out larger ones, but those are more exceptions than rules. This is “Street Fighting” and in a no-rule environment, I have to say I’ve seen the big guy win far more often than the little one. Like TTT said, they can bull an opponent around, and use their mass to move yours around, which will usually fuck with your balance, and not so much with his, not to mention that a 300 lb man just has more weight behind an individual punch than a 175 lb man.>

Post: BLACK PANTA:

In my experience, a bigger/stronger guy does have it’s advantages, but as setsu said, technique/speed is also a tide turner. I have fought bigger guys, one guy had 80lbs on me. I won’t lie he pushed me around a little bit, but I was faster, more agile, and had way more technique. Long story short, I ended up beating him, via armbay and Kimura (ude garame). I have also fought smaller guys with more skill, and got my ass handed to me. I outweighed these guys by at least 30lbs and taller than them by at least 4 inches.

I have also been “put in my place” by my wife who I outweigh by 165 lbs.

for the record I am at 162lbs and 6′ tall.>

Post: zefff:

so your wife is -3 lbs??? Damn thats lighter than air!!!

Panta is 165 lbs your usual weight or cos of the rest you had? Do you do body weight exercise at all outside of your usual training?>

Post: beat:

[quote=vladimir For example someone smaller fighting someone larger.[/quote dont matter ive fucked a big guy up before>

Post: BLACK PANTA:

Oh crap i meant to type 65 lbs lighter….damn you zeff. I used to be 185, then got down to 175 for a bit, now I’m down to 162. I do try to do bodyweight exercises, however all of my weight loss I attribute to more rigourous (sp?) training regime in both BJJ and Shaolin. More of the weight loss was from Bjj.

to answer your question zeff, rarely I do bodyweight or any weight training outside MA training.>

Post: mktexan:

From what i have seen, size matters depending on wha tecnique you use in a fight. a roundhouse kick can hurt a big man just as much as a small man. I would not fancy getting in a high chest mount on a very large man, because he would toss me off with ease. i would get him in a side mount, if i was to do that at all. my point is that i feel the effectiveness of size in a fight depends on how you approach a larger person in a fight.>

Post: bouncer99:

The amount of force a specific attack delivers is determined primarily by a) the weight behind the attack, and b) the speed with which the attack is delivered. A kick delivers more force than a punch because there is much more body weight behind it. Thus even a kick delivered by a 140 lb woman to the head of an opponent/aggressor of significantly greater size can still be a formidable attack. But it still will not be as effective as it would if it were delivered to a smaller or similiarly sized opponent. A larger opponent is more resistant to the force you are attempting to deliver than a smaller opponent. Experienced fighters are not privy to more devastating techniques. Rather they are more adept at delivering punches and kicks with greater speed and accuracy than an inexperienced fighter by virtue of more practice. There is no way to quantify how significant any one advantage is going to be in a fight, whether it be size, technique, strength etc. I was merely pointing out that size is a significant factor, and that even a highly skilled fighter cannot disregard the threat inherent in a larger opponent, in the same way that a large unskilled fighter cannot take a smaller, more experienced fighter as a cakewalk.>

Post: Twitch:

[quote=mannyB I disagree totally.
I think body weight is a huge factor.
Maybe even THE biggest factor.

I would argue that body weight can out weight skill if the variance is great enough.
In fact, I’d take a 250lb guy with some street experience over a 130lb shaolin master any day of the week.

That’s why we have weight classes in all fighting, so the little guys don’t die.

I don’t know the exact physical equation of throwing a punch.
I imagine it would look something like this:

(Velocity)X + (Weight) Y= Punching Power

Now as the variable for X (body weight) increases the punching power goes up.
That’s just common sense.
The harder the punch the more damage it can do.
A man 150 lbs is just not going to knock out an NFL line backer in a street brawl.

Here’s an another example.
Think abour your own weight, now imagine a woman, or a younger boy who’s 40 or 50 or 60 lbs lighter than you.
How much skill would they need to damage you?
I’d say quite a bit.
Not to mention that if that smaller person catches even a decent punch, they’re going to sleep.

In my experience, I’ve been training MMA for 10 years and been in more than a dozen or so street fights, my weight has always been a disadvantage.
I’m 5′ 7″ 175 lbs.

Especially in a NHB confrontation.
Even if your opponent doesn’t know how to grapple, his shear size is a danger, and in a street fight you will end up clinching.

One of my best friends is 6’7″ weighs about 250.
He doesn’t know any MMA.
When we used to wrestle, he’d simply grab some part of your body (usually your skull) and just start squeezing it.
It felt like it was going to crush. You can’t rely on a kick to the groin or an eye gouge or that secrect technique sensei showed you cause more than likely it’s BS. Sorry…

My advice to anyone about fighting is this:
Do yourself a favor and avoid fighting at all costs, you never know what someone has under their sleeve.

In the event that you have to fight, fight to kill. Stick to the basics: Punching, Muai Thai strikes, low kicks, and the basic grappling techniques.

If you still need more evidence about size, watch the street fight videos that are on this website.
You’ll see for yourself how the smaller guys get tossed.

Now I know alot of people are going to argue that with 20 years of training you can control a much larger opponent and sifu so and so is a grand wizard etc…

I love the tradtional MA styles, I think they are beutiful and steeped in history and tradition. They are a direct link to an era gone by. But the simple fact is that no single traditional MA is going to save your ass against a savvy street brawler.
Especially a large one. Western boxing, and grappling have changed the world of fighting. Even Bruce Lee abandoned his tradition.

Hope I didn’t offend anyone, it’s just MHO….backed up with cold hard facts.

: )[/quote 

I’m going to admit that I fail at fighting (completely), however I am pretty good with physics.

The equation I believe you are looking for is MassxForce=Acceleration. But there is something you should know, things like trains are fundamentally different from human bodies, and other things with muscles. The slelatal muscles in the human body are what allow voluntary function. Hence the stronger the muscles, the faster you can strike, and that means you can launch more powerful strikes. Now this does not mean that big people are always slow. Big people tend to have a higher critical hit ratio due to them being, well, BIG. They can cover larger areas.

Or something like that.

On a side note: animals also have more functions than just fighting, the “finght or flee” instinct is proof. Also, form follows function, just because you see someone go into a stance doesn’t mean they will be preparing to fight you.>

Post: zefff:

where is the yawn smilie when I need it? :roll:>

Post: richiefish:

this is such a cool topic
im goin to shoot a new dvd next month and right now i cant decide on doing one on silat for street fighting or facing larger opponent… one of my students is 6ft7 and weighs 29 stone… im 5ft8 and weigh 15 stone (210pounds for my americna bretheren)
do u think it would get much interest?
cheers
richie>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

if 15 stone is 210, you’re student weighs somewhere in the area of 400 pounds.

I call bullshit.>

Post: zefff:

Hahaha!!! LMAO @ Richie not knowing what DVD to shoot next :lol:

…actually I train with one guy who is 6’1″ and has just dropped from about 27/8 stone or so…I’d guess he’s about 23 stone now after loosing a fair bit of excess…and another guy who wont tell me what he weighs but he is about 6’6″ and looks like Bob Sapp. Both of them are scary.>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

And they call us Americans fat. :lol:>

Post: richiefish:

mr.tickle
yep its around 400 pounds
actually we are nearly as obese in the uk as in the states now (proportionate to the population)… but to be fair he has lived on and off in the states for the last few years (i would be fat if i lived in usa food is so tasty and CHEAP!)
this guy travels STANDARD CLASS every month between newyork and london… i pity any1 who gets the seat next to him!>

Post: richiefish:

zeff,
for various reasons i am in a position now where i have abudget to shoot dvds and access to instructors of any reality focussed style u can think of! so if anyone has an opinion what the most marketable money makin dvd to make would be at present-let me know!
i would like to do a dvd with my big mate=just to prove tickle wrong (only kiddin)
i can assure anyone who is any doubt that a MASSIVE difference in size negates any technique!
the only thing i can do to submit my large friend is crawl on his back and choke him with his shirt(his neck is just too big)— it happens rarely!
his technique is to just grab a body part, squeeze it, twist it and then drag- thants when we grapple
ive never boxed with him… maybe i should… and film it!
now that would sell!lol>

Post: nbotary:

You want to sell some DVD’s, shoot some MA porn!!! THAT would be a big seller!!! Sorry, I couldn’t resist…

Just remember that if you’re doing an instructional video, the best way to make it look real is to do it full speed. The best videos I’ve ever seen are ones where the instructor runs it at slow, medium and full speeds. Submit it to Grapple.tv and make some money. Good luck.>

Post: richiefish:

grapple.tv?
never heard of it… but will check it out… thanks for the pointer!>

Post: youngx:

which one matters more weight or height>

Post: rnc:

it depends on the person. is the bigger person trained or not? big people are like all other kinds of people. there is the proverbial big pussy and then there are big guys are not pussies. but the problem with fighting bugger people is the fact that they have greater body mass than their smaller opponents. if you are 5 8″ 150 pounds and a guy 6′ 4″ 260 is charging at you in a state of rage you are in deep shit, i don’t care what art you train in and that is the truth. i have fought larger guys before and it is a lot of work. fortunately, i had training, they didn’t and i came out ahead. if they were trained, i think there would have been a problem. i have a friend who is about 6’2 280. he has a 500 pound bench press and dose sets of seated shoulder presses behind the neck wit 315 for 6 reps. on two occasions black belts in stand up ju jitsu went at it with him in grudge matches and they were unable to effect any type of locks or holds on him. he tossed them around their own dojo. one of the black belts was a big guy and weighed over 300 pounds. my friend has no martial arts training.>

Post: Twitch:

[quote=nbotary You want to sell some DVD’s, shoot some MA porn!!! THAT would be a big seller!!! Sorry, I couldn’t resist…[/quote 

Google: “grapple girls”

P.S. Don’t hate, I’m just remembering that from the top of my head.>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

[quote=youngx which one matters more weight or height[/quote 
girth, ask your girlfriend about it.>

Post: nbotary:

[quote=Tease T Tickle [quote=youngx which one matters more weight or height[/quote 
girth, ask your girlfriend about it.[/quote Must… fight… urge… to… hijack… !!! Must… resist!!! Must… resist!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:>

Post: youngx:

ok but what if the shorter guy has more body mass>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

whoosh, that’s the sound of what I say going over your head.>

Post: Never_A_Loss:

[quote=angryrocker4 I believe that is not all that true. It applies when hittin a fat guy in the gut, for example. But as far as like places not surrounded by thick layers of fat, theres no absorbtion. Now some guys might have an iron jaw or something where it wont phase them no matter who hits’em, but I think in order to absorb stuff you have to know how to roll with the blows, and then its training and not really weight. Also when we think of guys that weigh more, we think of people that train, and so yeah, those guys would have an advantage a little, but most big guys are bodybuilders (which arent that strong for the most part) or just fat.

So unless you let a fat dude sit on ya, its really irrelevant, and then you could just point and yell, “They’re giving out free snicker’s bars!!!” and that should get him off lol.[/quote 

Lol, bodybuilders aren’t that strong? Are you kidding me?>

Post: Twitch:

[quote=Never_A_Loss [quote=angryrocker4 I believe that is not all that true. It applies when hittin a fat guy in the gut, for example. But as far as like places not surrounded by thick layers of fat, theres no absorbtion. Now some guys might have an iron jaw or something where it wont phase them no matter who hits’em, but I think in order to absorb stuff you have to know how to roll with the blows, and then its training and not really weight. Also when we think of guys that weigh more, we think of people that train, and so yeah, those guys would have an advantage a little, but most big guys are bodybuilders (which arent that strong for the most part) or just fat.

So unless you let a fat dude sit on ya, its really irrelevant, and then you could just point and yell, “They’re giving out free snicker’s bars!!!” and that should get him off lol.[/quote 

Lol, bodybuilders aren’t that strong? Are you kidding me?[/quote 

Not when comparing them to powerifters I assume.>

Post: rnc:

lol>

Post: TonyTooRaw:

size doesnt mean anything, if hes really big hes probably slow and the small guy can quickly do some damage. If u get a big ass guy down theyre gonna be slow gettin up just keep poundin him in the head till he gets up or try 2 take him down while hes gettin up. If hes really strong id say get a few punches in and try choking him out>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

Tony, you are clearly a dumb piece of shit and need to rethink your life.

I’d suggest you start by taking up floral arranging as a hobby.>

Post: asag2:

It has always been my stance that of course size matters but it is by no means the deciding factor. Anyone who says size is not an advantage has clearly never fought/sparred with someone who has the strength advantage. Anyone that has can tell you that they can cause serious damage. However, someone who is not especially huge can have other advantages as well.>

Post: vladimir:

Size matters but not always in the traditional sense. For example, (this isn’t actually a real fight but it’s close) yesterday me and a friend boxed. He’s about 5’11 and I’m about 5’7. I’ve boxed with him before and I knew that if I stayed back I would be at a disadvantage because he has a longer reach, but if I closed in real fast he would be at a disadvantage against me. So yesterday when we boxed I got into his guard as quick as I could and just landed several really good shots as compared to him who got only one good hit. Point being you can use your size to your advantage.

In another boxing match that same friend boxed someone who was about my height and won in part because he’s boxed before but also because the guy he was boxing stayed back, probably and since he doesn?t have as long of a reach he was put at a disadvantage.>

Post: asag2:

Vladimir

Thats an interesting way of attacking the situation. I am about 5’6-5’7 and i am usually the smaller of the two in a fighting/sparring situation. I never really took the approach of going directly into trapping range. I’ve always hung back and let them come into my range. I find that I can take the person off balance that way and put myself in a better position to avoid their strikes.>

Post: Parishda:

I think size completely matters, but as it has been said many times throughout this thread, it is not the deciding factor. Speed, skill, flexibility, training and a plethora of other factors come into play. I personally have defeated opponents much large then myself. I weigh in at a whopping 140 lbs. and I am 6’2″, so obviously I am very thin. Does this mean I have no strengths to bring to a fight against a larger opponent? Absolutely not, often times I have found speed and flexibility a major factor, however in real combat the issue quickly leaves the arena – there are no rules and the first thing I know is that my opponent is large and most likely stronger, I have to use every technique I possess to end the engagement as quickly as possible, because if I go head to head with this guy, statistically speaking, I lose and that is not an option. Like the saying goes, “On any given Sunday”, meaning no matter how good you are, fight enough and the day will come when you lose.

vladimir – Was your major advantage in this fight your size or your knowledge of your opponent? If this guy was average Joe on the street would you know his style or his reach? It is not always wise to rush into grappling range; you never know when your opponent will be a better grappler then you. Just my two cents.>

Post: vladimir:

[quote=Parishda vladimir – Was your major advantage in this fight your size or your knowledge of your opponent? If this guy was average Joe on the street would you know his style or his reach? It is not always wise to rush into grappling range; you never know when your opponent will be a better grappler then you. Just my two cents.[/quote 

The guy I was boxing with is a really good friend of mine, so before we boxed we’d pretty much decided that we were just going to box rather than grappling too. I don’t think my size alone was an advantage, rather how I used it. What helped win the fight was past experiences boxing him and the fact that I realized that if I stayed back I would be at a disadvantage. With regards to fighting the average Joe on the street, it’s usually obvious if they have a longer reach than you if they are significantly taller than you.

I think if it were a real fight, it would take place very differently because you can do a lot more things than just punch each other. I wouldn’t plan on boxing with someone I encountered on the street.>

Post: vladimir:

[quote=asag2 Vladimir

Thats an interesting way of attacking the situation. I am about 5’6-5’7 and i am usually the smaller of the two in a fighting/sparring situation. I never really took the approach of going directly into trapping range. I’ve always hung back and let them come into my range. I find that I can take the person off balance that way and put myself in a better position to avoid their strikes.[/quote 

Interesting, I’ll have to try that sometime. What martial arts do you practice?>

Post: Parishda:

Nothing wrong with boxing in street fighting – do what wins, if boxing its working you need to use what does. The first seconds of a fight can be used as a test – but if it?s for you life I suggest you don’t test long.>

Post: a_hab:

Its not the size that matters its all in how you use it ;)

At least thats what she said…of course she could have lied to me again.>

Post: youngx:

[quote=Parishda I think size completely matters, but as it has been said many times throughout this thread, it is not the deciding factor. Speed, skill, flexibility, training and a plethora of other factors come into play. I personally have defeated opponents much large then myself. I weigh in at a whopping 140 lbs. and I am 6’2″, so obviously I am very thin. Does this mean I have no strengths to bring to a fight against a larger opponent? Absolutely not, often times I have found speed and flexibility a major factor, however in real combat the issue quickly leaves the arena – there are no rules and the first thing I know is that my opponent is large and most likely stronger, I have to use every technique I possess to end the engagement as quickly as possible, because if I go head to head with this guy, statistically speaking, I lose and that is not an option. Like the saying goes, “On any given Sunday”, meaning no matter how good you are, fight enough and the day will come when you lose.

vladimir – Was your major advantage in this fight your size or your knowledge of your opponent? If this guy was average Joe on the street would you know his style or his reach? It is not always wise to rush into grappling range; you never know when your opponent will be a better grappler then you. Just my two cents.[/quote 

hahaha im just like u 6’2 145.i dont know why ppl think skinny ppl cant fight.and they always underestimate our strength>

Post: Cyanide:

This guy in school is twice my size and has been wanting to fight me for a while, I want to fight him to get him off my back but hes really huge and I don’t know were to strike on a big guy like him. I was wondering if someone can tell me a few places that i can hit so he goes down a bit faster other than the jaw, without having to fight dirty. A little random from the topic but it was the most relevant one i could find to my question.>

Post: vladimir:

[quote=Cyanide This guy in school is twice my size and has been wanting to fight me for a while, I want to fight him to get him off my back but hes really huge and I don’t know were to strike on a big guy like him. I was wondering if someone can tell me a few places that i can hit so he goes down a bit faster other than the jaw, without having to fight dirty. A little random from the topic but it was the most relevant one i could find to my question.[/quote 

Why is it necessary you fight him?>

Post: TKDman:

[quote=Cyanide This guy in school is twice my size and has been wanting to fight me for a while, I want to fight him to get him off my back but hes really huge and I don’t know were to strike on a big guy like him. I was wondering if someone can tell me a few places that i can hit so he goes down a bit faster other than the jaw, without having to fight dirty. A little random from the topic but it was the most relevant one i could find to my question.[/quote 
Don’t fight. That’s your best option. Unless you are well trained, don’t even think about taking bigger people. And I feel safe assuming you’re untrained because if you were trained, you wouldn’t be asking such a dumb question.>

Post: vladimir:

[quote=TKDman [quote=Cyanide This guy in school is twice my size and has been wanting to fight me for a while, I want to fight him to get him off my back but hes really huge and I don’t know were to strike on a big guy like him. I was wondering if someone can tell me a few places that i can hit so he goes down a bit faster other than the jaw, without having to fight dirty. A little random from the topic but it was the most relevant one i could find to my question.[/quote 
Don’t fight. That’s your best option. Unless you are well trained, don’t even think about taking bigger people. And I feel safe assuming you’re untrained because if you were trained, you wouldn’t be asking such a dumb question.[/quote 

It shouldn’t matter if the person is big or small, you should avoid trying to get in fights with people.>

Post: Cyanide:

Ok, thanks,i guess you guys are suggesting i should get experienced first… or just avoid fighting at all? Oh and uhhhmm. you know that fear no man thing that pops up all over the site? wouldany of you guys buy it or is it a load of crap ^^>

Post: bamboo:

I would leave the pop up adds for a lost evenings amusement.

If you want good experience, find a club, teacher etc. and train. Videos are fine for the experienced only.

-bamboo>

Post: angryrocker4:

[quote=Never_A_Loss 
Lol, bodybuilders aren’t that strong? Are you kidding me?[/quote 

No, Im not, compared to the average guy, yes they’re strong. But the workouts done are meant to bring out size, shape, and symmetry, not strength or power. Thus you find alot of smaller powerlifters that are way stronger than a bigger bodybuilder. Its their training that makes it this way, one for looks and one for strength and functionality.>

Post: TKDman:

[quote=vladimir [quote=TKDman [quote=Cyanide This guy in school is twice my size and has been wanting to fight me for a while, I want to fight him to get him off my back but hes really huge and I don’t know were to strike on a big guy like him. I was wondering if someone can tell me a few places that i can hit so he goes down a bit faster other than the jaw, without having to fight dirty. A little random from the topic but it was the most relevant one i could find to my question.[/quote 
Don’t fight. That’s your best option. Unless you are well trained, don’t even think about taking bigger people. And I feel safe assuming you’re untrained because if you were trained, you wouldn’t be asking such a dumb question.[/quote 

It shouldn’t matter if the person is big or small, you should avoid trying to get in fights with people.[/quote 
You should avoid trying to fight wild animals. You should especially avoid fighting wild polar bears.>

Post: Cyanide:

[quote=bamboo I would leave the pop up adds for a lost evenings amusement.

If you want good experience, find a club, teacher etc. and train. Videos are fine for the experienced only.

-bamboo[/quote 

I don’t get what you mean bamboo… so your saying its good? or are you saying its bad… you lost me at the lost evenings amusment part.>

Post: bamboo:

I mean don’t bother.>

Post: Cyanide:

[quote=bamboo I mean don’t bother.[/quote 

that still does not answer my question.>

Post: bamboo:

cyanide wrote:

Quote:
you know that fear no man thing that pops up all over the site? wouldany of you guys buy it or is it a load of crap ^^

I responded:

Quote:
I would leave the pop up adds for a lost evenings amusement.

If you want good experience, find a club, teacher etc. and train. Videos are fine for the experienced only.

you asked:

Quote:
I don’t get what you mean bamboo… so your saying its good? or are you saying its bad… you lost me at the lost evenings amusment part.

I wrote :

Quote:
I mean don’t bother.

u wrote:

Quote:
that still does not answer my question

Don’t bother = not worth trying= bad.>

Post: Cyanide:

Ahh, thank you, hehe =D>

Post: EscrimaConcepts:

:twisted:
Hi All,

Size isn’t an issue it is better to move and have the bability to fight using things like balance, speed, timing, distance, power, focus and transition.

Through these Concepts we can teach you to fight in any situation.

Train hard and train safe.>

Post: vladimir:

[quote=EscrimaConcepts :twisted:
Hi All,

Size isn’t an issue it is better to move and have the bability to fight using things like balance, speed, timing, distance, power, focus and transition.

Through these Concepts we can teach you to fight in any situation.

Train hard and train safe.[/quote 

There are many factors in a fight, size isn’t the biggest factor but it is certainly a factor.

I probably should’ve clarified this topic more because size could be interpreted as weight or height or strength.>

Post: EscrimaConcepts:

Hi,

There are many factors of a fight, not just size, your have emotion, fear many more. But through movement and these things you can counter the weight issue.>

Post: Parishda:

cyanide wrote:
I was wondering if someone can tell me a few places that i can hit so he goes down a bit faster other than the jaw, without having to fight dirty.

Cyanide – Look brother there is no such thing as fighting dirty, there is no honor is real fighting. Like everyone else here I suggest you avoid the fight altogether, but if the guy attacks you or you find yourself “needing to fight” forget all that crap about fighting being fair, its not. Bite, claw, drop knees, elbows, go for eye jabs, pressure points…hell whatever it takes.
“In battle the only thing worse then winning is losing.”
“There are no rules in battle – rules against hurting are for games.”
Robert Jordan
[/quote >

Post: TKDman:

[quote=EscrimaConcepts :twisted:
Hi All,

Size isn’t an issue it is better to move and have the ability to fight using things like balance, speed, timing, distance, power, focus and transition.

Through these Concepts we can teach you to fight in any situation.

Train hard and train safe.[/quote 
Thank you walking pop-up ad. I beg to differ. Size can be an incredibly important part of the fight. Someone who’s 5’4″ and 120 lbs will have a much smaller chance of defeating someone who’s 6’8″ and 275 lbs. You’re fooling yourself as well as setting yourself up to get hurt if you don’t take the other person’s size into account.>

Post: EscrimaConcepts:

Hi,

Size is an issue, but more important is power, I’ve defeated people much bigger and heavier than me through power.

If size is so importent, why do you fight, if you see a bigger person and will not fight them, if size is the over riding factor, then you have already lost.

Yours Pop Up Ad>

Post: zed:

some styles like the snake were invented for this reason, it gave women being attacked by larger men the ability to fight and win, so i would say yes size is not as important as skill. also the monkey uses the opponents size against them.>

Post: TKDman:

[quote=EscrimaConcepts Hi,

Size is an issue, but more important is power, I’ve defeated people much bigger and heavier than me through power.

If size is so importent, why do you fight, if you see a bigger person and will not fight them, if size is the over riding factor, then you have already lost.

Yours Pop Up Ad[/quote 
1) Playing internet warrior is not a good way to win respect here. I understand that it’s possible for a smaller person to defeat a larger person, but it takes years of training and a little luck and maybe you can defeat a larger person.

2) I’m not saying size is the only factor. But it’s a big one and gets bigger as the disparity between both people gets bigger. And while I suppose if I had to fight a bigger person I would, it would not be my first, second, or third option.>

Post: buicken:

zed,
monkeys do no such thing. monkeys bite dick and balls, chew on noses and throw feces.>

Post: vladimir:

[quote=TKDman [quote=EscrimaConcepts Hi,

Size is an issue, but more important is power, I’ve defeated people much bigger and heavier than me through power.

If size is so importent, why do you fight, if you see a bigger person and will not fight them, if size is the over riding factor, then you have already lost.

Yours Pop Up Ad[/quote 
1) Playing internet warrior is not a good way to win respect here. I understand that it’s possible for a smaller person to defeat a larger person, but it takes years of training and a little luck and maybe you can defeat a larger person.[/quote 

Size is a big issue in a fight but there are also many very important factors. I think you need to clarify how much larger the person is. Being ten pounds heavier than someone isn’t as nearly as big as an advantage as someone who is sixty, seventy pounds heavier than you. While at the same time you need to consider why the person is heavier than you, is it because they are fat or muscular or just taller.

Training and size aren?t the only thing that can help you win a fight here?s a list of some other things:

[url http://www.fightauthority.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2358&highlight=factors+fight[/url >

Post: zed:

some of the answers i read here are kind of kiddish, i dont understand why people act like that here of all places but fine. i feel sorry for the teachers of the students in here if they dont think they can take on a larger opponent….getting around someones size in MA, is just 101. but maybe thats just the classes i take/took. now if both parties are about the same skill, and one is bigger thats one thing, but if you’re on the street and some huge unskilled guy comes at you and you (being skilled) cant mop the floor with him…that doesnt say a whole lot about the effort you put into MA. nice monkey comment, bet your teacher things you’re the tops…>

Post: CraigS159:

I fully agree with zed on this.>

Post: shoebong:

Id prefer fighting a big guy their slower, little crazy guys are the ones you gotta watch out for>

Post: TKDman:

[quote=zed some of the answers i read here are kind of kiddish, i dont understand why people act like that here of all places but fine. i feel sorry for the teachers of the students in here if they dont think they can take on a larger opponent….getting around someones size in MA, is just 101. but maybe thats just the classes i take/took. now if both parties are about the same skill, and one is bigger thats one thing, but if you’re on the street and some huge unskilled guy comes at you and you (being skilled) cant mop the floor with him…that doesnt say a whole lot about the effort you put into MA. nice monkey comment, bet your teacher things you’re the tops…[/quote 
I guess I’d have to wonder how much “skill” I would need to defeat someone heavier. Do you think you have enough skill to take on an NFL lineman? You probably weigh less but you’re “skilled”, right? No problem! :roll:

Taking a martial art does not make you invincible versus “unskilled” opponents. You will get hurt with that mentality.>

Post: opariser1001:

of course size matters zed, that’s why there’s weight classes in almost all fighting sports>

Post: Hengest:

Quote:
some of the answers i read here are kind of kiddish

Talk about the pot and the kettle… :roll:

zed, I hope one day you take a kicking. Not a life-threatening one, just a pride-damaging, looks-and-feels-worse-than-it-is one. And I hope the guy that does it never set foot in a dojo in his life. Then, maybe, just maybe, you’ll wake up and realise that life isn’t a Jackie Chan movie.>

Post: zed:

yes i could take a nfl lineman…………………but guess what i wouldnt go head to head with him though you stupid fuckers use you head you sound like you are trying to make rules for fighting…there are no rules anyone can take anyone if you know what you are doing…….damn if you cant take an unskilled big man maybe you need a new sifu cause you suck then……..and it sounds like you have taken a few pride smashing hits man but i dont start fights so i doubt that will happen to me but it sounds like youre a dick who goes around starting fights and one day if it hasnt happened already you will get your kiddie ass kicked…..damn kids this site sucks…..no constuctive intellegent comments at all……..uhg. didnt use commas cause i wanted it to be a run on rant…….damn this forum sucks…….im done here . fuckers (erase that like im sure you will….learn some real truths b4 you bash others, but you drove me here…..;)..)>

Post: bamboo:

Bye bye Zed,

call again when you wake up. :wink:

Bye the way, for one that knows the truth so much more than the rest of us fools, how come you became so upset so fast?

-bamboo>

Post: angryrocker4:

Because one must embrace their passions to become one with the dark side!!!!

Sith Lord Berzerker’s Rule!!!>

Post: TKDman:

[quote=zed yes i could take a nfl lineman…………………but guess what i wouldnt go head to head with him though you stupid fuckers use you head you sound like you are trying to make rules for fighting…there are no rules anyone can take anyone if you know what you are doing…….damn if you cant take an unskilled big man maybe you need a new sifu cause you suck then……..and it sounds like you have taken a few pride smashing hits man but i dont start fights so i doubt that will happen to me but it sounds like youre a dick who goes around starting fights and one day if it hasnt happened already you will get your kiddie ass kicked…..damn kids this site sucks…..no constuctive intellegent comments at all……..uhg. didnt use commas cause i wanted it to be a run on rant…….damn this forum sucks…….im done here . fuckers (erase that like im sure you will….learn some real truths b4 you bash others, but you drove me here…..;)..)[/quote 
I for one am a little sad to see zed go. If he could keep churning out bullshit like this, I would definitely stop by here more often! The no constructive intelligent comments stuck out to me because I’ve yet to see him make one, only insult not only the practictioners here but their instructors too, if they can’t take on any “unskilled” opponent no matter what size.

Well, we’ve run zed out of town. Now we need to work on CraigS159 because he “fully agreed with zed on this”. Please, Craig2159, explain why you agree with someone who displayed such childish behavior to criticism of his ideas.>

Post: samurai6string:

I want to know who pissed in his KoolAid? I don’t think anyone here is saying size is the only factor, but you’re simply being negligent if you think it doesn’t matter at all.>

Post: Tease T Tickle:

[quote=samurai6string I want to know who pissed in his KoolAid? [/quote 
Mostly Zefff and I. Bamboo helped out a bit and Setsu threw in a couple jabs, too, I think.>

Post: samurai6string:

good deal, but if he wants a yellow snow cone, I’m definately in on that one.>

Post: JCSamurai:

I might be just a little late but this stuff is hhhheeeeeelllllaaaarrrrriiious to me. :lol: 8O :D But when you say size, are you guys talking strength or just size (Height etc.?) Im 5’6 175 lbs and I bench press 265lbs. However my body size is not bulky. so most guys look at me and can tell I work out but don’t think i am as strong as i am. So I need clarity.

And also, in my dojo I make sure that I practice with the tallest guys, and the stiffest guys.

There is one particular guy in class that is about 6’3 at least, and trying to do Irimi nage on this guy is sooo fun! on the other hand, there is another guy who is about 5’10 at least and this guy is fat and stiff!!!! The same technique is very different to work.

Point is this technique with these guys is always a factor!!!! for me!>

Post: iwillshootyoubitch:

Once again I agree with Tease T Tickle. Weight classes are established because a big guy can IN FACT most of the time assert a hell of a lot more force than a little guy. Think about it. If you drop a half pound rock from a building thirty feet up and it lands on some one it will f*ck thier shit up but if you drop a three pound rock on some one from thirty feet up it will REALLY f*ck thier shit up.

No matter what any one says, reality show us otherwise. If some one outweighs you by a large amount the odds weigh heavily against you. Unless of course you run at the big guy and missile drop kick his leg or you jump into the air and execute the most precise and powerful tornado kick you have ever done and it just so happens to impact with his jaw at just the right moment… But the odds of you being able to pull off a maneuver like that in real life are slim to none. Which is why I say God made man but Sam Colt made man equil.>

Post: iamfighter:

equality in a fight can be judged by many things. overall it usually comes down to size and skill level. different techniques are effective on different body types, therefore if someone is fluent in dealing with body types, size should not matter and in most cases, size should help. however if two people are on the same skill level,(which usually only happens when both fighters have no skill at all because once you start to have to deal with skill level, other variables come into play as well such as style, etc.) size will almost always win.>

Post: Haas:

[quote=iamfighter  however if two people are on the same skill level,(which usually only happens when both fighters have no skill at all because once you start to have to deal with skill level, other variables come into play as well such as style, etc.) size will almost always win.[/quote 

I for one think that no two people in the history of time have ever been the same in skill level for that to happen 2 people would have to have lived the same life, born at the same time and born with the same genes and trained the same way at the same time. i think size is or has to do with skill based on how the person eats (I for one eat like a bird and cant understand for the live of me how fat people do it). Consider it :?>

Post: Elitexboxer:

I heard in a karate book that larger fighters as well as smaller fighters
can generate great power,but small “people” require greater acceleration to generate force.>

Post: thesunwolf:

Trying to figure out what factor most effects the outcome of a fight in the intellectual ether is like eating a complex stew and trying to figure out which ingredient made your f4rts smell.

You can only do what you can with what you got. Hence the fact that people say determination is so key. Everyone has a scale of potential they’ll never know the extent of. But, you do know that the harder you work and train, the farther up on it you’ll be.

That’s my two cents.

P.S. I got my training set up hung in my garage night before last. Already been in there for three short workouts. My writsts are sore, but I can already feel the fat meltin’ magic goin’ on.>

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