Technical Information on Shooting, Axioms for Grappling, etc
Original Poster: The BadBoy
Forum: Mixed Martial Arts Forums
Posted On: 06-06-2005, 09:33
Orginal Post: The BadBoy: Can’t remember if i’ve posted these before when I was posting notes on this site. Anyways if I have then someone please delete this thread.
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– Overview —
“Shooting” has become a very popular term in martial arts lately, with the advent of mixed martial arts events, and the greater recent interest in grappling. Generally, it is referred to as a quick way to close the distance into grappling range.
However, it is very important to distinguish between a technically sound shot . . . and a “duck and charge”. We’ll get into that in a little while.
– Simple Dichotomy —
Shooting can be looked at as one half of a simple dichotomy in grappling. In general, you’ve got two primary ways of closing to grappling range in order to take your man down:
– and –
“Shooting” entails a sudden closing of range, accompanied by a change of level. It can involve a drop step and coming down to one or both knees, or it can be done in a step-in fashion without either knee touching the ground.
“Pummeling”, on the other hand, involves working your tie-ups, etc., to achieve the purchase you want to take your man down. Greco-Roman wrestling is a masterful art in the area of pummeling.
Pummeling and shooting are not exclusive, though. You can set up your shot off of the tie-up, for instance, or off of a break of the tie-up, tapping the head, etc. Shooting can happen from a variety of ranges.
– Timing —
This one I’ll keep nice and brief: The time to shoot is when his weight is coming up. There is a lot more to say on this, but we’ll keep it simple.
– Types of shots —
To start with, you’ve got a number of different types of entries when you’re shooting. The first consideration is the very location on the floor you are penetrating to, relative to the opponent’s feet.
Have a person stand in a squared stance (aka “cowboy stance”) facing you. Now look at his feet. There are five main points of entry for shooting.
1. Several inches to the right of his right foot.
2. Several inches to the left of his right foot.
3. Directly in the center between his feet.
4. Several inches to the right of his left foot.
5. Several inches to the left of his left foot.
Here are his toes:
And here are those points (noted as x’s) relative to his toes:
x ooooo x x x ooooo x
When you enter, your toes upon penetration will meet up depth-wise with his toes (i.e. you step to where his toes are beside yours).
– Center Penetration —
Let’s look at a common way to shoot in on your opponent — the center position. This location is noted above by the “x” that is in the center between the opponent’s feet.
This type of entry is best against the type of opponent who uses a lot of forward and backward movement. **It’s very important to choose the right shot that suits the opponent’s motion**. Penetrating center leg is a good “chasing” shot, and is one of the few methods of penetration that can catch a runner.
This use of linear trajectory is similar, by the way, to the use of linear punching against a long rhythm fighter in boxing. i.e. In boxing, you would use your linear hits against long rhythm movement (forward and back). Whereas, lateral hooking punching against a short rhythm fighter corresponds to side shots against a forward committing or laterally moving opponent in wrestling. There are also a number of parallels in the Filipino Martial Arts with your stick and knife work. It’s universal.
We’ll get more into the specifics on this type of shot (center penetration) in a moment.
– Posture and Stance —
First, though, let’s take a look at posture and stance.
The way to set up your center penetration is with a staggered stance. Put your strong side forward. That foot is in front — it is your penetration leg (the first one you will step with). The other leg is your drive leg. Both are very important. In this stance, your feet are positioned at opposite corners of an imaginary box.
Now, let’s form your stance. This can be a compromise with your normal fighting stance, or you can revert to it quickly from your normal stance in the moment you are getting set for the shot.
Bend your knees a little, keep your elbows in, palms out and/or downward (i.e. not facing you), head back (not bent forward), torso inclined slightly forward (but still upright, back erect, not bent forward), chin tucked, hips facing the direction you’re about to penetrate.
These are some good rules of thumb for posture and stancing.
– The Center Shot —
We’ll do it in steps.
1. Lower your vertical level, by bending your knees.
2. Step the lead foot to the center penetration point between his feet, contacting the ground first with the heel. As you drive through, you will then contact with your toe, and then your knee. So, think “heel, toe, knee” as you penetrate center.
3. At this point, you are in a semi-crouched position and pretty low to the floor, but you are not bent forward. Drive forward as the flat of your lead foot touches down, using your rear leg to drive you in. **At no point in a shot should your shoulders extend forward of your knees** — very important.
4. Once your lead foot touches down completely, you continue to roll the foot forward (ball of foot) to where the knee keeps going and will eventually touch down on the floor (between and past the opponent’s feet). At this point, your drive leg is fully extended. It is maxed out, and can’t do anything more for you. So, you step that foot outside of his foot on that side and behind him as your penetration leg’s knee is driving forward toward the floor. Your drive leg is stepping forward to “catch” you and your momentum. This will allow you to come back to your feet if you want to. If you are quick in posting your drive leg, then you don’t have to drop your penetration knee to the floor — a good tip if you ever want to penetrate center on concrete.
5. Now, let’s back up a second. As you are coming in, DO NOT REACH OUT WITH YOUR ARMS. SHOOT WITH YOUR CHEST. That’s an axiom for the way I teach shooting.
6. From here, you want to make sure that you still have good upright posture. At no point should you feel over-extended. You should always have your base under you.
7. With your hands behind each knee, and your elbows still in tight against your ribs (pulling his knees close to you), you are ready to follow up your shot to take him down. By the way, the “hands behind the knees” position follows from another axiom in wrestling: **Always control his body where it bends**.
Let’s look at the double leg takedown from here. There are numerous variations of the double from a center shot. We’ll look at a few.
– Standing, Lifting Double —
When possible, you always want to try to come back to your feet before taking the man down. This gives you better control over his body, as well as giving you better balance, leverage, and mobility. Another axiom.
1. From the kneel-and-post position, come back to your feet. You still have your hands behind each knee, holding them in as close as possible. Head is still upright, pressed against the side of his torso — different schools of thought on this: some like the top of the head under the armpit, some like it further down or out on the side of the ribs or chest. It will vary according to your size and height, and the that of the opponent.
When you come back to a standing position, notice that you are in essentially the same posture you were in before shooting in. That was the point of shooting in the first place: To get in close where you can grip him behind his knees, but to arrive at this with the same well-supported posture you started with.
2. Now, from here you can go in a number of directions with the standing double. If his weight is forward, you can hoist him on your shoulder, lift [with your legs , and turn hard in that direction (180 degrees) and set him down under your side control. This is in keeping with another axiom that I teach: **You want side control built into your takedowns**. This means you are already past his legs and to his side before you set him down. The double leg is a perfect adherent to this principle.
3. If you can’t lift him, then you want to flair him. If he is to your right as you come to your feet, then turn your right foot out 90’s degrees in that direction and step in that direction as you pull up and in on his right leg at the knee with your left hand, while holding in and blocking his left knee with your right hand. Step laterally past that left knee of his as your flair him, and down he goes. Very easy to do. Follow him down there, and you’ve got him in side control.
4. As a third direction, you can also drive him straight to his back. But be sure to step around his legs so as to get him in a solid side control as he hits the ground. This allows you to avoid his legs, and to avoid having to pass the guard.
There are a number of other directions you can take to land a standing double, but these three are very reliable (high percentage) options.
– The Arms —
This brings me to another axiom which applies here, and it explains a common misconception about wrestling. People who have never wrestled tend to think that wrestlers use a lot of upper body strength in the performance of takedowns and throws. Nothing could be further from the truth. At every stage of the entry and takedowns described above, the arms are kept in close to the body. **It is the movement of one’s aggregate body that takes the man down**. In wrestling, the arms are regarded as rather weak and ineffectual. They are the little guys in the fight, and they always lose against a “bigger guy” — the opponent’s hips and legs. Therefore, they are kept in close, and are never over-extended. Their main function is as a clamp to hold something tight against your body so that your overall body motion — which is much, much more powerful, as it is driven by the legs — can affect the opponent’s mass and take him down. A good takedown is heavy on technique, through momentum and timing, but not heavy on strength. The legs and hips are your powerhouse, while the arms are little secondary appendages. I tell my students to visualize themselves as a T-Rex when they’re shooting and taking someone down (i.e. little arms that aren’t strong and don’t reach out very far).
If wrestling had easy gripping places as found on a gi, then you’d see a lot more use of the arms in pulling, tugging, adding “heaviness”, etc. But as the only gripping opportunities are those provided by human anatomy, the arms serve considerably less of a purpose toward that end.
Keeping the arms in also serves an additional purpose in a center shot — with the elbows down and in close, the opponent can’t underhook you and turn you over easily after he squares his hips and sprawls. Sprawling with the hips squared, by the way, is a common high-percentage response to a center shot and double leg.
Now let’s take a look at a couple of other double leg takedown options off of a center shot.
– Under A Sprawl –
If he sprawls and you can’t come back to your feet, not to worry. With your posted outside leg, you can drive to the side toward that far leg as you bring his knees together (keep your grip on that far knee). You may need to revise your base around more toward his back to get the necessary drive to take him in this direction. You can also pop him to the side while on both knees, if his sprawl is so heavy that you can’t even post your leg. In any event, you want to think of bringing his knees together — turning a two-legged table into a one-legged table, as I tell my students.
One of my favorite follow-ups, though, is to drag my kneeling knee diagonally toward his opposite knee (e.g. right to right, after penetrating with my right), as I turn 180 degrees and pull in that far knee. He falls right beside you to his back. Dragging your knee diagonally across took out the main thing that was holding him up: your own base. Down he goes.
Use your head to help push him over as you pull in that far knee. The overall body direction and turning, however, are primary in getting him down.
– Aftermath —
After putting him on his back, keep your hold on his knees and scramble around to a good side control. Side control “B” as I call it is a good first option (aka “cross body”), with your hand blocking his leg and hip from putting you in the guard, and the other elbow blocking his neck/ear on the far side. Be prepared to go to a reverse scarf hold and blanket his chest if his legwork is good.
Keep your weight on him. Quite often, the person you just took down will get right back up by sliding his hips away from you and getting his base back under him. When he’s on his back and weighs twice as much (his weight plus yours), he can’t do this. Drive your weight toward his chest and shoulders until you’ve established your side control. If your weight is over his belly or waist, he might be able to post an arm and sit up. From there, all he has to do is heist his hips, and he’s back up again.
So there you go. There should be enough information there to turn you all into top-flight center penetration shooters. Remember, there are other types of penetration as well. The above post is just an outline of some center penetration options.
The article above as posted did not include the spaces between the feet that were intended in the included diagram. Just visualize a person standing with his feet shoulder width apart, with one point in the center, and four points a couple of inches to either side of his toes.
Good luck to you.
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